i think the u.s. come to the bargain basement at the present time and with interest rates so very low, all-time record lows do you think the elimination of the mortgage deduction would have a significant impact on prices? >> i really don't. >> we have a short term impact on the lower price points. at the end of the day when we cut through all of the clutter, people need shelter, some form of shelter to that end, they can buy a home or they can rent, and i think there's people in america, whatever the price point, would prefer to rent, would prefer to purchase versus rent and i don't think they're looking first and foremost at the tax deduction as the key driver. >> ron, steve forbes here. what do you hear about how hard it is to get a mortgage, even though rates are low, and also what's happening in the jumbo mortgage market? in terms of availability of credit. >> you know, that's the real problem, if we look at what are the key issues that are really limiting housing purchases today, is the financial